Ancestor Info:  What we know

Goetz-Slade

A 1977 letter that Gran Goetz wrote to Thomas and Anneliese offers some information about the Goetz family we never knew as kids.  That letter, along with photos and information Peggy dug up, give us the summary here.

Our great-grandfather William Goetz was married to Caroline Herzler.  She seems to have been from Germany.  (We have a German church certificate of some kind for her---maybe birth, maybe Baptism, maybe Communion, dated 1869.)  Does anyone know whether William was from Germany?  Does anyone know how William and Caroline met or when they married?  (I've been to the Ellis Island Web site, but I haven't been able to pinpoint Caroline or William.)

These Goetz's---Great-grandfather William and Great-grandmother Caroline---had five children:  Caroline, Elizabeth, Catherine, Jacob---who changed his name to James--- and William (our grandfather).  All these kids were born in Brooklyn.  And, their dates of birth probably all jam in around 1880s-1890s

Great-grandfather William Goetz died in an "accident" in 1905.  Gran Goetz mentions that he worked "for a gas company in Brooklyn."  I wonder if the accident was work related.  She also mentions that Caroline and William's son William---our grandfather---"was 14 years old" when his father died.  So, that would mean that our grandfather William was probably born in 1891.  Great-grandmother Caroline Herzler Goetz died March 20, 1920.

William and Caroline's son William---our grandfather---met Catherine Slade (born in Hoboken New Jersey, January 16, 1894) in 1913.  They were married January 21, 1914.  For as long as I can remember they lived on  54th Avenue in Elmhurst New York.  They had two children:  Margaret and William (born 1924).  I wish I knew how William and Catherine  met.  Early photos seem always to place them on the beach or in the mountains.  I wonder if they met on a holiday outing somewhere.  How did Catherine Slade get from Hoboken to Brooklyn?

The first photo on the Ancestor page shows Great-grandmother Caroline Herzler Goetz with her first grandson.  All we know about that boy (who is Margaret and William's first cousin, our first cousin once removed) is that he is Jacob/James Goetz's son.  That little boy's kids would be our second cousins.  All the children that Caroline, Catherine, Elizabeth and Jacob Goetz might have had would be our second cousins.  Gran Goetz says in her 1977 letter "I never hear from these families."

I can remember Aunt Margaret telling me a long time ago that the Goetz relatives we never knew---her first cousins, our second cousins---lived in New York or New Jersey.  I'm having no luck at all finding them.  But, over time, maybe a relative or two will appear.

We have a little information about the Slade portion of the Goetz family.  We know our great-great-grandparents were James McNamara---from King's County Ireland---and Mary Malone---from Queen's County Ireland.  James and Mary McNamara had three children:  Catherine---our great-grandmother,  James, and Annie McNamara.  Catherine McNamara married a man named Slade and seems to have settled with him in Hoboken.  We know two facts about our Great-grandfather Slade:  first, his reputation for meanness is monumental; second, he was a "sheepherder on the hills of Hoboken."  Slade and Catherine McNamara Slade had three children:  our grandmother Catherine, Marie, and George Slade.  We knew Aunt Marie for a long time.  She married John Croudle; they lived in Brooklyn---Greenpoint, I believe---for years and years, and years.  (We visited them in their walk-up apartment many times.)  George Slade---our great-uncle---served in World War I.  Peggy says he died in the flu epidemic 1916.  We are the only grandchildren from the Slade-McNamara match.  And, I wonder if we have Slade great-great uncles and aunts---maybe third cousins---of whom we have no knowledge


Duff-O'Donnell

The Duffs:  Nora Duff Carroll is Mom's first cousin.  She and her husband Sean live in Abbey Leix.  Nora's father and Mom's mother were brother and sister.  Nora's kids are our second cousins. (I've met our second cousin Mary).  Our kids have lots of Duff third cousins in and around Portlaoise (pronounced "Port-leash") Ireland.  Laura and Niamh (pronounced "Neeve") Carroll are Mary's two lovely and brilliant girls.  Mary says she'll be sending some new pictures soon.  I'll post them here.

We have many more Duff cousins---Nora has a bunch of kids, as do Mom's other Duff cousins.  I'm hoping Nora will send me a list---and maybe some pictures.


The O'Donnells:  We have O'Donnell second cousins---and our kids, third cousins---near Donegal.

This is Hugh O'Donnell and his family.

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Hugh is Mom's first cousin.  Their fathers were brothers.  Geraldine and Hugh have this nice looking bunch---the kids are our second cousins---and a beautiful house on the bay.  Hugh owns O'Donnell Motor Works in Creeslough.  Hugh and Geraldine, and Geraldine's dad, were so welcoming to Stephen and me when we dropped in on them unannounced.  (Was that 2 years ago?  Already?)  We didn't meet the kids.  But, wouldn't that be nice?

The O'Donnell cousin list does not stop with Hugh and Geraldine's kids.  I hope there's a way to get an O'Donnell cousin list and pictures.